Better Angels of our Nature: Podcast with Marcie Gourley

Better Angels of Our Nature is a reflective, story-driven podcast dedicated to calling out what is best in us—as individuals, as communities, and as a nation. Through history, thoughtful commentary, and quiet moral insight, the show explores moments when compassion triumphed over cruelty, conscience over convenience, and courage over fear. Drawing inspiration from Abraham Lincoln’s timeless appeal to our “better angels,” each episode invites listeners to step back from outrage and noise, to remember shared values, and to consider how ordinary people—past and present—have chosen empathy, restraint, and hope. This is not a podcast about winning arguments, but about recovering our moral imagination and nurturing the virtues that help us live, lead, and relate more wisely in a divided world, as seen through a therapist’s point of view.